Big Bang Bull
His personal life was a remarkable failure, with stories continuing grouped by flashbacks to similar events, but the boy felt he could still contribute in science, and only then began aggressively pursuing cosmology further. Deciding he was better than his life, he argued the merits of our bond with Nature to seal his online research by asking questions of observations of deep space.
if you survive the first 10^-43 seconds, appreciation is subject to inflation.
“There seems to be lots of electrical phenomenon in the cosmos. What is the astronomy take on electricity?”
“It has been determined to be mostly bull, and promulgated by a band of zealots who are totally ignorant of basic physics. You will undoubtedly hear shortly from such uninformed zealots. Stay tuned, I think I hear one coming”
From our distance, most things are frozen in time. Almost everything in the universe that can be perceived takes place on time scales much longer than a human lifetime.
However there are fast events out there. Supernova, the resultant expanding dust shells, etc. Many individual stars move fast enough to detect. But you need high powered telescopes and instruments to see the changes. Mant are not visible in light wavelengths, but are in infrared, radio or X-ray wavelengths.
Galaxies swirl around in clusters, sometimes hitting their neighbours or dragging their neighbouring galaxies apart, depending on how they interact gravitationally. They are stirring each other up. But these objects are very large and move relatively slowly and these interactions can take millions or billions of years.
As we look out into the universe, we see a “snapshot” of all these interactions, as the light from them reaches us. The universe looks to be a very dynamic place, but dynamic over very large scales and durations.
We cannot “see” it rotating or moving towards us.
Please explain: What do you mean, see it rotating? Do we take a picture of a galaxy one year, then again the next year and look for changes?
Even over aperiod of hundreds of years, there is no change in galaxies. At those distances the changes are too small to measure (at least as far as rotation is concerened) We know they are rotating because of the additional red and blue shift from the approaching and receding sides of the galaxies, but the positional chamges are too small to measure, in fact individual stars can not even be seen. It’s just too far away.
Is it always one side blue and one side red? This is done via microwaves
Redshift can be detected in any spectrum.
Precisely correct. The entire measured spectra are shifted higher or lower from the baseline. The degree to which it is shifted, higher or lower (e.g. left or right with respect to the baseline, equating to red- or blue-shifted), determines how much
I don’t think the microwave region of the spectum is any more relevant to deriving motion than other wavelengths
What about quasars? Aren’t quasars found to be very high redshifted and lying nearby to parent galaxies? 8/16/2008
Yes, there are a few observations that seem to contradict the mainstream theory, but they are by no means definitive. The quasar that lies 8 arcseconds from the centre of NGC 7319 does look as if it might be in that galaxy, but it might not. There are theories that quasars are the stripped cores of devoured galaxies that have been “spat out” at high velocity, and thus would be close to, but have a very different redshift from, their parent galaxy. Or that they might be a great distance away but shining through a less dense part of the galaxy and exciting gases within it. So the jury is still out on the nature of quasars. The key point here is that, even if quasars turn out not to be very distant as previously thought, this just precludes us from using them as a measure of distance.
It’s precisely the problem when the chicken comes before the egg. Somebody says expansion of the universe and then the ONLY things that are recorded are those that agree with it. Things that don’t are just overlooked. With all due respect, it means that something else is responsible for red-shift.
Have you considered that the universe might be expanding, and galaxies that are moving with that expansion show cosmological redshift. If quasars are ejected at high speeds from the remnants of consumed galaxies, they might indeed have much higher redshifts than galaxies that are close to them, due to the extra relativistic doppler shift from their velocity and that Doppler redshift would be added to their cosmological redshifts.
Or perhaps the quasars aren’t close to those galaxies at all.
“The finding poses a cosmic puzzle: How could a galaxy 300 million light years away contain a stellar object several billion light years away?” http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/science/mcquasar.asp
There is nothing quantitative in that article that provides evidence the quasar is in front of NGC 7319. Galaxies, when viewed face on, are not opaque… we can see through them. Not to mention they are looking at a processed 2d image and using the age old excuse “it looks like”.
There is absolutely no conclusive, convincing or even compelling evidence for intrisic redshift. 8/16/2008
Except that it explains the observed phenomenon without adding new properties of matter, and new laws which don’t apply on earth. 8/18/2008
It certainly does, but is it the correct explanation? Anyone can explain an observed phenomena, but the intepretation of what your senses gather is not always correct. And, it would seem here, that interpreting what is seen on a processed 2d image can be misleading.
I’m not so sure it does. How would intrinsic redshift explain the observed time-dilation of SN1a supernovae? Or the increase in the apparent angular diameter of galaxies with redshifts of over z=1.6? Both observations are entirely consistent with an expanding universe.
If the redshifts of these objects were due to a different cause, we need a mechanism by which Type 1a supernovae seem to have speeded up the duration of their explosions during the history of the universe and then slowed down again more recently, and a mechanism by which galaxies over a certain distance away (as measured by their apparent magnitude) seem to retain a similar structure to brighter galaxies, but get larger and larger in size the the more distant they are.
Explain the time-dilation of SN1a supernovae and the increase in the apparent diameter of distant galaxies. The angular diameter distance of the galaxies, over the range of magnitudes, is a bit of a giveaway really.
So if redshift is wrong, and the universe is not expanding, then we have some very large looking, dim and ghostly high redshift galaxies that must be closer to us than some very small looking, bright and low redshift galaxies and structurally, the galaxies look similar to each other
If you mark off metres on the ground, into the distance… 1,2,3,4,5… then stretch the ground to double its original size, the first mark will now be 2 metres away, the second 4, etc. So 1,2,3,4,5 doubles to 2,4,6,8,10. Say it only took 1 second to stretch the ground.
So the first mark moved 1 metre in 1 second. It went from 1 to 2 metres away, in 1 second. The fifth mark, however, moved 5 metres in 1 second – it went from 5 to 10 metres away. The more distant mark receded at 5 times the speed of a closer one, but all the ground expanded at a constant rate. The mark is not moving over the ground, the ground is stretching around it. A mark that was 300,000 km away would have receded to 600,000 km, meaning it receded at 300,000 km/s – the speed of light.
This is a very simple model to illustrate how the expanding universe causes distant galaxies to have the apparent recession speed faster than light, due to the same concept as above. Those galaxies are not moving through the universe faster than light though. What is happening is that the way the universe expands simply makes it look like they are receding faster than light. They would see our galaxy (or what was here before, billions of years ago) as receding from them faster than light too, but we know we aren’t travelling through space faster than light, don’t we?
I’m working on your question about “aparent time-dialation” with “distant” supernova, Speed. Bear with me. But let me reiterate, YOU’RE WRONG ABOUT EXPANSION.
Don’t forget the angular diameter – redshift distance relationship of galaxies too. Once you understand this concept, it is hard to argue against redshift showing us that the universe is expanding, unless you also introduce new physics. You need a mechanism by which the dimmest galaxies are larger or closer than much brighter ones
And it’s not about me being wrong, as I simply explain the current mainstream view in cosmology.
kicklabuka 9/2/2008 [s9149]
All in all: Charge in motion. Spin is a common effect of the interaction between electric and their resultant magnetic fields. These conditions make stars of the same size more luminous or less luminous.
The size of these galaxies in the sky increases with redshift until the dimmest galaxies are almost twice the size of closer, a lot brighter galaxies. Charged objects that are spinning create magnetic field lines that make a doughnut shape around the charge. If it’s spinning clockwise, those magnetic field lines go out the top and turn back down the sides. If there are lots of charged objects spinning, those magnetic field lines would find a happy medium where they can share similar forces from other stars’ electric fields. Systems become galaxies and stronger field lines make tigher packed systems. I believe the question of why dimmer galaxies are bigger is a no brainer.
If your explanation is to hold, you need to explain why your electrical effects stopped affecting the size of galaxies 9 billion years ago, why we see the increasing angular size of galaxies only before that time.
Kicklabuka 9/5/2008 [s9149]
Things for you change around 1 because that’s called a parabola and your math makes it happen there.
At best, it’s “fun with parabolas.”
As for angular diameter, it is a simple set of observations. We found through observation that the dimmer the galaxy, the higher the redshift and the smaller the apparent angular size of the galaxy. But then we found that as galaxies get really dim and highly redshifted, the apparent angular size gets larger again. These are the observed relationships between the galaxies we see. Those “parabolas” are the averaged curves that best fit all the observations. Simple.
Kicklabuka 9/5/2008 [s9149]
your observations have built-in multipliers, do they not? You can’t guess the angular size until you have already guessed the distance, right?
The multiplier you refer to is the scale factor of the universe since emission. All the observations will, of course, make sense only when considered in the context of the scale factor. Without it, we have to account for all sorts of strange phenomena like, for instance, galaxies in the early universe being of a similar structure but much larger (in absolute size) than galaxies are today, and decreasing in absolute size only for a certain length of time, and supernovae lasting for shorter and shorter durations as time progresses.
We do not have to guess the apparent angular diameter, as it is apparent, and that is what we are talking about – the size we see these objects as (we do, however, have to guess the absolute angular diameter). But if dimness and size are an indicator of distance at emission, why are the dimmest galaxies larger than much brighter ones?
Do you actually understand what z represents?
I am under the impression that it represents the wavelength difference between what you see and what you expect to see from the hydrogen line, divided by the expected hydrogen line wavelength. This gives you z right?
Would you list all of the places that Z is used and in their formulas? You’re right. What you say makes me think z has become something much much more
Well, of course you are correct that z represents shift in an objects spectrum, but as you correctly suspect it has become something much more. The mainstream view is that cosmological redshift is caused by the change in the scale factor of the universe, the amount the universe has expanded, during the time that the light was travelling. Our other observations tie into this scale factor too, assuming that cosmological redshift represents expansion.
Thank you for helping to explain the angular diameter measurement. The size we see these objects as. I’m guessing you mean aparent is the number of arc seconds that the object takes to pass a fixed (to earth) point in a telescope. So from arc angle, how do you get arc length? You need a distance to the object.
Yup, that’s right, you need a distance. A combination of apparent luminosity, redshift and angular size, based on the cosmological model that best fits the largest range of observations with the least error.
The least error if we assume the universe is expanding. If we don’t assume that, then these direct observations are all we know.
Yes, quite correct. But our direct observations show us supernovae with increasing durations, the further back in time we look…….. These redshifts, if not due to some form of actual or apparent recession, if due instead to “tired light”, still need to explain the time-dilation of supernovae and the increase in apparent angular size of the galaxies with the least luminosity (and correspondingly, the highest redshifts). Without expansion, our observations actually become harder to explain without inventing new physics. We have to be careful in which context this is used. Expansion is consistent with General Relativity and doesn’t require new physics to describe it. Accelerating expansion, on the other hand, does!
But, “The further back in time,” you mean dim, you mean redshifted. Time is part of the assumption,
We have to make some assumptions, don’t we? Otherwise we simply end up saying “there’s things out there”.
NO ASSUMPTIONS. If the basics are wrong, assumptions after them are also wrong
consider this – we know the luminosity of the Sun, from a distance of around 8 light-minutes on Earth. We have measured the Suns luminosity over various distances – we know how big it is, how bright it is and how far away it is. This allows us to find distances to other stars of the same type as the Sun. The Sun is a common type of star.
Do you know that it has layers of Iron, Nickel, Oxygen, Silicon, Sulfur, Magnesium, and Calcium of specific isotopes. The hydrogen rich photosphere is very unstable.
or do you still think it’s a big ball of Hydrogen with a little helium?
Everything we know about the stars is about to change.
Ahhh, a true drinker of the Kool-Aid.
As you have started another thread on this subject, acknowledging that the composition of the Sun has little to do with why we think the universe is expanding, do you have any other objections to expansion then? Or can we put this thread to rest now?
The composition of the Sun has little to do with why we think the universe is expanding, do you have any other objections to expansion then? Or can we put this thread to rest now? 9/9/2008
Yes, I still object.
We have shown how the time-dilation of supernovae and the angular diameter-redshift relationship imply expansion.
You have shown that mathmatically linked variables have linked graphs.
We KNOW how bright the Sun is. The underlying reason behind its luminosity will NOT affect how bright we see it, or other stars, although it may explain why they have that luminosity. Whatever we discover about the structure of the Sun has no bearing on the relationship between the luminosity of stars, they will still have the same relationship. So how will any of this prove that the universe is not expanding? How will it suddenly change the overall picture to a non-expanding universe? 9/10/2008
I think the stars are connected by sharing magnetic field lines. For the sun, this zone extends beyond pluto. Birkland currents would cause these stars to revolve with respect to each other. –9/10/2008
Now that we know the solar system was created by a supernova explosion ~5Gy ago, there must be two types of stars. Those that have undergone a supernova event, and those that have not. I’d really like to discuss this a lot. I don’t know if there’s enough information to determine critical conditions, because it is difficult to agree on the basics.
It will show the electrical interactions of the charged shells of the structure, rotating. It will show the interaction between stars as well, and the interaction between size of galaxies and their luminosities. It all comes down to understanding such a close-by thing as the sun.
a certain very dim and highly redshifted dimness we find the size starts getting larger again. This is consistent with an expanding universe
And the interaction between the stars to cause these size variations will be used to figure out actual size, and thereby, actual distance. All we’ve got are light received per second, shift in the hydrogen line, and arc angle
I think the stars are connected by sharing magnetic field lines. For the sun, this zone extends beyond pluto. Birkland currents would cause these stars to revolve with respect to each other. –9/10/2008
Now that we know the solar system was created by a supernova explosion ~5Gy ago, there must be two types of stars. Those that have undergone a supernova event, and those that have not. I’d really like to discuss this a lot. I don’t know if there’s enough information to determine critical conditions, because it is difficult to agree on the basics. –9/10/2008
We here on Earth, orbiting the Sun, orbiting our Milky-Way galaxy, are receding faster than the speed of light from those distant galaxies, just as those distant galaxies are receding faster than the speed of light from us.
Without expansion, our observations actually become harder to explain without inventing new physics.
We have to be careful in which context this is used. Expansion is consistent with General Relativity and doesn’t require new physics to describe it. Accelerating expansion, on the other hand, does!
On a hunch, please draw the tolman graph with emperical data for ONLY the lamda where Z=1 through Z=>7That is, lamda on the x axis and erg/(cm^2 x second) ONly for when Z=1 through >7
Who are you talking to?
I think to himself
But does anyone know what he is talking about?
What this might have to do with expansion of the universe, red shift, general relativity or the price of eggs in China is a mystery to me.
I think I know what to do about the intimate knowledge of partial differential equations, calculus, linear algebra, and Fourier series. But I have no idea how he intends that such knowledge be applied.
I think this is a fair assessment. KickLaBuka came into the “Expanding Universe” thread, asking questions about the evidence that the universe is expanding. He seemed to be claiming that he had developed his own solution for increasing redshift that did not require an expanding universe, a solution that didn’t require unknown forces. We pointed out that redshift is not the only evidence for an expanding universe and went on to explain some other kinds of data that support expansion – the time-dilation of SN1a supernovae and the angular diameter-redshift relationship. I asked if his solution could account for the other data that supports the expansion view.
I have no idea what the connection with [nuclides] or tolman excercises/graphs might be (or what a tolman exercise or graph is). I’m not quite sure what the problem is, but I am pretty sure that the mathematical disciplines that he mentioned, with which I am quite familiar, are not the heart of the problem.
He is referring to the Tolman Surface Brightness Test but the connection with [nuclides] has lost me.
“I have no idea what you’re talking about, and neither do you.”
Stubborn or pig headed; this dullard considers himself lucky enough to study some of the coolest fields of science ever, but what he found changed the entire paradigm. Tirelessly courting the implications for weeks, he visited another chat room supportive of an electric model to see if anyone had developed equations. One person said he thought mass and charge had something to do with it, which supported Chemistry ideas dating to 1998. Justin was anomalous in astrophysics; deciding abruptly, currently, with conviction; the ideas he had been nursing since college were set apart and not contradicted in observation and there was a better way(earworm) to describe Nature than what was accepted at the time. It was actually difficult to say “no” to years of teaching in order to share Electromass.
So on one sunny Sunday afternoon in September 2008; the nitwit was ticketed and then released for speeding as he drove to his Alma-matter to tell people about the concept. wildly called friends and family to invest in the stock market; that they would be rich.
A thunder and lightning storm ensued. The door where he was staying swung open and repeatedly slammed shut. Justin prayed to whatever God is, for the opportunity to teach, and the storm immediately dispersed. The next day, a bright and sunny autumn afternoon, the biology department asked him if he had spoken to the physics department, and Justin declared “I am physics!” His mother arrived on scene from 12 hours away while he was scheduling appointments with professors in the chemistry department. The chemist went on about how we have to assume things, and
“Truth?” the professor pleaded. The dow jones crashed 800 points. Friends were glad they didn’t take his advice. Justin left the building and a respected religious figure initiated a conversation with him, invited him to a Dutch lunch; and instead of letting him eat, he asked repeated questions about the ideas; but as a biologist, didn’t understand or recognize the cosmology Justin was explaining. He brought Justin to a church building because, “that’s where I feel comfortable.” After asking questions about personal habits, this figure decided Justin’s ideas did not follow his theology and showed a sense of urgency to have him admit himself into a mental hospital–specifically one that had a supply of pharmaceuticals. A basketball fell off a table and started to bounce in the gym with nobody else in the building. “well, if that’s how you all feel,” Justin said; and voluntarily accepted. The lights flickered. “Not now!” the figure shrieked, and rushed to make phone calls.” The power went completely out. Justin’s employer nurse called him on his cell, and he said, “I’m fine. I’m just taking the day off due to scientific discovery.” The figure wrote on a note, can I talk to them?? On the phone, he said Justin was with him and he would be out for a few days, not at all knowing how long it would be or the impact it would have. After he hung up, he said, “on a personal level, [shouting] YOU DRAGGED ME INTO THIS,” to which Justin replied, “You called me. You’re the one pursuing an agenda.”
Although only referencing the speeding ticket, personal habits and his scientific ideas with the staff, the onset was characterized by the psychiatric community: “Patient is alert and oriented x3. He is cooperative with the examination. Vital signs – temperature 97.4, pulse 58, respiration 16, blood pressure 145/104, o2 sat 98% on room air. Neck is supple. Lungs are clear to auscultation and percussion bilaterally. Pulses are 2+ and equal bilaterally. There is no clubbing… On admission, he was acutely psychotic, overly productive, quite irrelevant, and grandiose… He was actually unable to put his thoughts together; he was just jumping from one topic to another… For the last six days or so, he has not been eating adequately, not sleeping, and his mind was just overworking and he was just writing continuously… He decided to [drive] to talk to his professors about what he as learned through astronomy and was, in fact, wanting to get the media involved.” The staff asked him if newspapers were talking about him, and he was like, “huh? of course not.” (But he expected they would due to the totality of the discovery). “During [psychiatric] interview, he was noted to be fairly alert, cooperative, coherent and relevant. He was actually overly productive, but his productions were presently quite coherent and relevant. He readily mentioned that he was quite grandiose but this grandiosity seemed to have decreased considerably and, at the time of this interview, he was still delusional but not as much; in fact, he knew that he has some grandiose ideas. His memory was grossly intact, both for recent and remote events. He was oriented as to time, place, and person and seemed aware of his environment. Clinically, he is of average intelligence. He showed some insight. His judgment may be considered impaired….He will be referred for milieu therapy. We will try to do a sleep deprived EEG and CT scan of the head without contrast…Meanwhile, he will be provided with a safe and supportive environment…”
After yet another day without sleep, this time by force, and interrupting his breakfast before he could take a bite (the first meal since the biologist’s interrogation/lunch the day before, where he barely had an opportunity to eat), Justin fell asleep multiple times during the 20 minute Electroencephalography (EEG) scan. After the scan, he ate his cold eggs and nurses continued to try to keep him awake well into the afternoon. He eventually cried out to be left alone to rest; later asking for staff to give him something to help him sleep and they injected him with a large ‘cocktail.’ He was out for the next 18 hours, unconscious in a rolling chair. Family and friends came to visit him incarcerated there; one showing an abundance of interest in finding out what it was like. “You try it if you wanna know.” They began coughing uncontrollably which ended the interrogation.
Justin asked a hospital worker if he could charge his phone (locked with his personal effects) to be ready on his release; and the worker complied but boasted, “I got the keys,” as he was corralled from one locked room to another; eating when and how much they said regardless of body size and metabolism; sleeping when they said; interviewing when they said, and with no access to the online world. Is silencing participation in the online community humane? Is having one option and quantity for meals (they’ll let you eat extra fruit, which should be avoided except when weening off of a high sugar diet) humane? Is stacking financial obligations upon an unknown release date humane? Why, because you don’t want to let them [us] exercise free enterprise in real life? Who’s the insane now?
The staff gave him piles of elementary school type forms and reading material, not looking at a single piece upon completion. Justin started working on writing down the theory in the language of mathematics. Another inmate (patient), sat in and it stunned Justin that he was correcting math error after math error, like a Spanish teacher correct’s a student’s grammar. Justin rashly brushed aside each and every mathematical insight as trivial so as to remain in his mind, the discoverer. He got phone calls and visits from friends and family, urging him to take the meds he was refusing; reasoning to Justin that was the only way if he wanted to get out of that locked facility. After five days, he allowed them to begin medicating, and was discharged after eight.
“He continued to improve. He started to interact with other patients, attended group activities, and participated in some. At no time was he a severe behavior problem other than initially he was acutely psychotic… He was started on a mood stabilizer.” After his release and then suffering from mood instability from the pharmaceuticals, the biologist called to ask Justin how the experience was, who angrily suggested, “anyone who pushes someone to admit themselves into a mental hospital should first try it for himself.”
I’ve stepped on my dog as a stepping stool in my youth.
When I played soccer, I was normally more heavy than most of the people on the field; and I certainly used that to my advantage. Growing up a defender, I learned a lot about 50/50 balls: Arms in, legs planted, make sure to touch the ball. There have been times where I have knocked men and women alike off their feet; trying desperately not to step on them. I’ve thigh checked a guy running at a full sprint right off the field, and even flipped a guy end over end. None of this was illegal, but I did get scolded on a number of occasions–never by a woman.
Well…A teenage girl was getting interested in soccer. She asked me for help pre-season. I took her on a 2.5 mile run, then we worked on fine volleys to practice accuracy with jello leg. She was so exhausted from the exercise that she never ever ever asked me to train with her again.
Well…I asked a girl out to go running, when I could run for miles; and I tried to push her to keep up the pace when she was clearly struggling. We got back to my place and I brushed passed her as if she would want to kiss me after being overworked on the first encounter.
When I was a teenager, I was riding an old horse and wanted to go fast. I made him sprint, then realized he was retired and it wasn’t nice to push him.
The speeding violation on discovery wasn’t the only time I drove fast. I had gotten a new motorcycle in 2007 with a really cool dyno curve (it had a lot of pick-up), and got a number of tickets. One officer said to me, “you made the turn and then the next reading on my radar was 53/30.” Prosecution later reduced the ticket to a seatbelt violation, even though I was always well-secured. Another ticket was reduced to failure to obey a traffic device. I wasn’t ticketed when I tested the motorcycle for maximum speed, but I was travelling down the same road after a long trip a year later and could barely stay awake. A third ticket, going 80 down the highway at night, a car parked facing traffic turned on headlights (not the overhead flashing lights) as I passed by. I bolted, reaching speeds of 127 and taking the next exit. I made a wrong turn the wrong way on the opposing off ramp, then pulled a u-turn to face the right direction. By then the cop was nearby and I stopped the motorcycle. The flustered officer pulled up quickly and had me pull off to the side of the road, “you blew by me at 83! Then you pull this u-turn like I wouldn’t notice?” “no” (it was a wrong turn). He cited me and I got the ticket reduced to 74/65. The saving the world speeding ticket was a few months later 96/55.
He saw a regular psychiatrist for medications, as well as weekly psychotherapy/psychoanalysis sessions with a clinical psychologist. He went back to work the following month. He spent company time and paper on a hundred page defense case for the speeding ticket and attending every frequent doctor visit. The buffoon made light of it for Halloween (left). His performance suffered with his medically altered mood and would get frustrated, excited, and depressed easily. The loon would talk about his ideas with everyone around him on the company dime, and with people in online chat rooms–who were minimally persuaded. This exactly coincided with a two-week war between Gaza and Israel.
He talked about the science with acquaintances from grade school. Someone blurted, “you need to get your head out of the clouds.” Another asked, “is it alright if I don’t believe you?” Finding his friends dispersing faster than an unobstructed sneeze, “Without having any evidence to disprove it? Based on nothing? Go for it,” Justin deplored.
“Black holes absolutely require extreme mass density. Black holes are born of general relativity, and general relativity is the theory of gravity.”
“Are you suggesting that we abandon both quantum mechanics and general relativity without having a theory to supplant them? We know that they are very good approximations, so long as you don’t go outside the known domains of validity.”
“The emissions seen in light spectra have nothing to do with the nucleus. The spectrum is from the electrons associated with the atom.”
“The electrons have nothing at all to do with the nucleus of these atoms staying intact”
“People may laugh, people may argue about electromagnetic forces and gravitational forces, maybe his explanations are not right, but close structural similarities between an atom and a solar system, even a galaxy have always puzzled bright minds. In the back of their minds there have been a nagging thought, could the roots of all structures be the same?”
“There are almost no similarities between an atom and the solar system ”
“The fact that Quantum physics seems so out of step with the rest of what we think we know means that somewhere along the line we have missed the point, and I’m pretty sure it’s the atomic model that’s wrong.”
“Big Bang didn’t give us current physics, current physics gave us big bang.”
“the spectra of atoms have been measured extensively (especially that of H and He) and can be completely explained from the equations of quantum mechanics. It would be very difficult to accommodate any new effects that we don’t already know about, since the spectra had been reproduced to many significant digits (up to 12, in the case of hydrogen!).” (12-9-2008)
“you cannot measure the motion of an electron. Its useless to say it exists.” (2001)
“Physics is in the business of “predicting”, not “understanding”. (We had to give up on the latter since the advent of the quantum….) Nevertheless, if you show us a better way to compute *easily* what we obtain only with hard labor we surely will be interested. “(12-11-2008)
He saw another website, which later disappeared, that had independently used the word regarding an unexplored, obscure energy correlation in chemistry dating to 2003-5, but didn’t investigate. By Thanksgiving, 2008, he decided to write down the idea. He spent nights organizing the thoughts of electromass while also preparing his own defense of diminished responsibility in the 9/14/08 speeding violation.
On the witness stand the Officer said, “I asked him why he was traveling at such a high rate of speed and he informed me that he was headed to university because he had a theory that would save the world… He really didn’t an excuse for why he was going so fast besides that…[he] appeared nervous.” “Can you describe the behavior that led to that observation?” “very similar to your speech now. It’s broken. Your hands were shaking.” “Did you consider me a threat?” “No sir.” “At the time of the traffic stop, did I make a statement to you that the sun is heating up, the bees are dying, the bats are dying, I like fruits and vegetables and I don’t like mosquito’s?” “I don’t recall that.” “You don’t recall that…. OK, did I express a sense of urgency to share the information I had?” “Yes.” Justin took the witness stand. “the following day–” “Objection” “Sir, we’re dealing only with the traffic stop…” “Your Honor, I appeal to show that I am not guilty by means of diminished responsibility, that I lacked the culpable mental state which negates men’s wrath [mens rea].” “Objection. This is a strict liability. inaudible [rea] has no part in this.” “I have to sustain her objection sir.” “for a inaudible [rea] crime, you have for form an intent or when you have to form a recklessness or something of that nature. And there’s nothing of that nature in this crime or in this traffic ticket.” “Well, I believe my mental state at the time is appropriate and should be admissible.” “Under New York State law sir it is not admissible in a vehicle offense.” (Justin emailed the transcription services to adjust the blatant inaudibles, “The term I used was “mens rea” [ree-ya]. It’s latin for “guilty mind.” They replied, “unfortunately, I cannot make that change.”) While the prosecution argued “this is a strict liability”, mental health professionals are privy to denying driving privileges based on mental conditions. An attending psychotherapist stated, “There is little doubt that Mr. Sandburg’s judgment was severely impaired by virtue of his mental disorder which impacts behavior, thinking and affect. Mr. Sandburg’s behavior resulting in a speeding violation was the direct result of his mental disorder.” “[he] no longer manifests erratic behavior. He is unlikely to make poor motor vehicle decisions as he previously did…” A second doctor said, “Mr. Sandburg was ticketed while on his way ‘to save the world, because the bees are dying, the bats are dying, and the sun’s heating up.’ It is obvious from this description of his thought process and behavior that he was still manic at that time and with grandiose thinking that is typical of this maladie. Speeding is also typical.” The defense requested, “leniency to be exercised, given the state of mind of the defendant that it was morally right when conducting the act constituting a [violation]. Mr. Sandburg was therefore negligently unaware of the circumstances, the medical illness, and the consequences of his conduct, and cannot be held fully accountable.” The Judge not only sided with the prosecution, but also refused to hear the medical testimony, later writing, “while the defendant alluded to some mental state, he appeared twice previously in this court and was both times lucid, well-spoken, and appeared to understand the proceedings. The court, while not mental health trained, at no time detected any abnormalities or strange behaviors on the defendant’s part.” The appeals court quickly affirmed. It started to dawn on Justin: The presence of mental irregularity is typically exclusively used against someone(earworm).
Justin went to Boston to visit friends, and just kept saying “space lightning” to see how the public would react to such an idea. They weren’t approaching him, so he asked a random stranger on the trolley what he thought about space lightning. The guy said, “this is complete and utter total bullshit.” Everyone laughed.
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